Lasik | Lasek Problems

  • stewart

Replied by stewart on topic Cataracts after lasik

Posted 10 Oct 2016 13:47 #51
I had Lasik in 2010 in 2013 I developed early age cataracts, today I need surgery.
Optical Express wash their hands of my condition
Last Edit:10 Oct 2016 14:18 by stewart
  • Maria

Replied by Maria on topic Reply to Gill

Posted 23 Sep 2016 18:28 #52
Hi Gill
My surgeon was Luca Antico - Damani saw me at a surgical consult 2 years after. I only got to see him because we lost patience and refused to accept that my symptoms were just a part of normal healing process. I was clearly getting worse and the side effects were getting to me, OE offered me plugs for dry eye but never supplied them - there are references in my notes but every time I asked they couldn't find them. I had to request my file under the Freedom of Information Act and at a cost to see it in writing.They were supplying drops and I had free aftercare for 2 years and then OE cut off the provision, no notice, so now the NHS is paying for drops. Looking back, the entire process was shameful - I've posted about this on the Forum a while back.
Mr Damani was nice enough but listen, I thought I was fed up with glasses before the op - that was nothing. At least I knew what my prescription was. Now vision fluctuates, I need reading glasses, have a lot of pain and discomfort from dry eye, sensitivity to elements is so high I wear wrap around dark glasses which in the Summer steam up and just look stupid. My old specs were trendy and looking back I felt good in them - there is nothing trendy or good about wearing these wrap around glasses, having to carry several pairs of reading glasses to meetings - which will suit that day is always a surprise. I had 3 very difficult episodes when I couldn't see and felt disorientated. I use drops 13 times a day and gel 3 to 4 times at night - my sleeping pattern is all over the place. I think it is fair to say this procedure has changed my life - sadly not for the better.
Since OE refused the free aftercare I was told was part of my package, I have been doing a lot of research and if I'd known what I know now, I would have walked right out of that office. Staff are skilled at selling their product, they know how to convince you that you are the ideal candidate. Once money changes hands, the level of support drops. Like in my case, when you most need them - you're left on your own. Sadly you can't undo Lasik - if you'd bought a new car you'd not only have more consumer protection - you could just get rid of it.
I'm determined to, alongside many others, fight for tighter legislation in the refractive surgery industry. We walk around thinking that laws are so tight, nothing untoward could ever happen - and if it did, we would be supported to get justice. Not at the moment. Soon I hope. Laser technology may be fantastic these days but the risk is so high, it should only be used in cases of clear medical need.
I don't want to tell you what to do - I wouldn't have listened to anyone. My Mum didn't want me to go ahead and she is a scientist. I trusted people I saw as highly regulated and professional health practitioners and because my experience has always been of the NHS and good, I had no reason to doubt their agenda. I would give anything for comfortable eyes, for reading without glasses, for ability to rely on the pair of glasses prescribed. I had that once but I guess grass is always greener.
One of the biggest regrets of my life is going through with this procedure.
I wish you good luck, and whatever decision you make, I hope it is the right one.
Last Edit:23 Sep 2016 18:40 by Maria
  • Gill Sandon

Replied by Gill Sandon on topic Lucky me!

Posted 22 Sep 2016 20:46 #53
Hi Maria,
Just been for my initial consultation at Optical Express and looks like I can have LASIK (or possibly LASEK) further to a second consultation in 2 days time with the surgeon Mehul Damani ... was he the surgeon who actually carried out your laser surgery or just who you consulted afterwards?
Also, have you had all of this pain, ghosting etc constantly for 2 years and all they have offered is drops and compress?! :(
I am 47, badly short sighted and sick of glasses and lenses. I thought laser surgery was much better these days but reading all of these horror stories makes me scared to continue..
I appreciate any guidance!
by Gill Sandon
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Posted 20 Sep 2016 13:41 #54
1 year after Lasek surgery and I’m still in pain and have blurry vision! OE refuse to give me my money back AND they want to charge me for any more treatments/appointments!

They are the worst!

CONSULTATION - Thursday 25 June 2015, Optical Express in Eastcheap.
Seen by refractive technician Andia Ciucas and optometrist Elisabeth Vaurazeri. Told I was a perfect candidate for either LASEK or LASIK treatment, with the choice of both procedures.
I thought I had most of the relevant information from Ms Vaurazeri and at this point felt reassured by her expertise, and that Optical Express was a reputable large company. However, I was then told I would be given the rest of the information later when I choose which treatment to take.
I was then taken to a room by the receptionist, who, I now realise, had no idea about what the procedure entailed or it's effects. She was completely unqualified to give me the vital information on my decision to choose LASEK or LASIK and it is unacceptable that she should persuade the client to make an important life choice. She pressured me to book immediately as then I could claim £300 off with a voucher that would expire if I waited. I was misinformed me in so many ways. I was told LASIK takes two days and LASEK five days to heal.

I had LASEK - but was later told it could take up to a year to heal. I could not open my eyes without extreme pain for five days and therefore kept my eyes completely shut for four days after surgery. I was in bed for 7 days, off work for 21 days. It’s now been 13 months and I still wake up with pain and my vision is still blurry, halos, not able to see properly in the dark.
This is not five days recovery!
I would have never have done this if I’d been fully informed of the real facts, which I was not at the time of handing over my money. I was tricked into this without having the right information.
Before the treatment I was worried about the decision I had made, I tried to speak with someone for an entire week before surgery, but no one was able to speak to me or give me a direct number to an adviser. At this point I was already worried I had made the wrong decision, however I had paid my £400 and already spent hours at the consultation etc.
Each time I spoke to a receptionist they told me they did not have the information and that someone would call me back within 48 hours, but of course no one did. This is a common occurrence, I never get any call backs. I was rushed into the surgery and giving my money before the surgery. From the 25th June until the surgery on the 15th July my money was taken and I never got a call back from the Optometrist. I was only given further information to read a few minutes before my surgery.

SURGERY - Wednesday 15 July 2015, Harley Street.
Was given only a few minutes to fill out some forms, was not given these forms in advance to carefully read through and make a considered choice. I had already paid the full fee, not much chance for second thoughts.
Surgeon Manek Patel. I was in and out of the operating room within minutes. I was not given any verbal instructions afterward, just plonked on a chair and soon out of the clinic. Didn’t even really understand what had just happened.
Two hours after my surgery, I thought I had got blind. I had to somehow get home from central London by myself so I had to call a friend to collect me. At this point I could not open my eyes and was in excruciating pain, even with the drops and painkillers.
That night I have fever and vomiting, I called the emergency helpline to tell them that I need help and that I don’t think I can make it to the next day post op check up. they told me that I absolutely should try to get there. No other advice.

POST OP AFTERCARE APPOINTMENT - 16 July 2015, Shaftsbury Ave
The receptionist told me the wrong location and the wrong time! Terrible administration and aftercare.
I was in agonising pain, could not see or open my eyes. They told me it would improve and I’d be able to open them them the next day and wouldn’t have pain.
That evening I had a fever and vomiting again because I was in so much pain. I called the OE emergency helpline and they just told me to wait for tomorrow to get better. A pointless, unhelpful emergency helpline.
Next day, and for the next four days I still couldn't open my eyes, I couldn't even move my head or let any light into my eyes, I just stayed in bed, trying not to move, or be sick.
My friends had to come to my flat every day otherwise I would not have been able to eat or move. All I could do was stay still and try to sleep off the agonising pain and hope to wake and be better.
I was in bed for a week, I could not watch anything or have my eyes open for long, I was in so much pain. My body was in complete shock, I felt like I had been in a car accident or something similar.

Even if my eyes were fine now (which they are not) the surgery would have not been worth the trauma and pain I went through.
A few weeks after my surgery I went back to work, where the staircase is a bit darker than the corridor, but I'd never had a problem with it before surgery.
I fell up the stairs as I could not see the steps as my eyes cannot adjust from going light to dark quickly, still a problem today.

Frustratingly, on three occasions after my appointments Optical Express sent me follow up emails to congratulate me - ‘I am delighted to hear that your eyes are healthy.’ - this was after I had been crying in their premises with regret, worry, pain and eyes that that had not healed.

I lost count of how many appointments I had and how many bottles and captures of eye drops and ointment I am still going through. My eyes are sick of feeling eye drops falling onto the eyeball.

No one managed my expectations or prepared me for the worst. Days after my surgery I still could not see and was in pain, they told me that once I would take out the bandage contact lenses I would be able to see perfectly. I had them taken out and could only see a blur. I was then told give it a three more days and I’ll be able to see fine, then I went back, no change, they said give it a week, then a month, then three months - and finally told me it could take a year. From 5 days to a year – wow that is a difference!!!

Months after the surgery I was told I should do heat compression, massaging and take Flaxseed Oil – I’ve been doing that every day for well over 6 months. Yet the pain is worsening and my vision more blurry. Every morning and every night before I sleep I use the eye drops and ointment, but I still wake up with agonising stabbing pains in my eyes every single morning.
I have to use eye drops throughout the day to stop headaches from occurring, so my eyes don’t sting, dry up or feel like sand is in them. My vision is blurry I cannot see writing on signs when I’m driving, or at the train station looking at the board notices. I have severe halo and ghosting, my eyes are still very sensitive to the light, I get headaches and pain if it’s too bright, my eyes feel like they are constantly burning. If going from dark to light suddenly then my vision doesn’t feel like it can catch up with the change. I cannot be at a computer for long as it strains, burns and hurts my eyes, which makes my office job very difficult and slow. Spending a day in the office looking at a computer is too strenuous on the eyes now, which I’ve never had problems with. I had never experienced dry eyes before either, so this is very hard for me to feel that my eyes are worse in almost every way because of your surgery. When I am doing strenuous physical activity I feel a build-up of pressure on and around my eyes. This worries me because as a contemporary dance performer this is unpleasant and a massive distraction.

I have given it over a year and I am extremely upset and frustrated. Day by day my eyes seem to be getting more painful and blurry with increased ghosting rather than less. I do not want to keep going back to OE just to be told to give it another month, another year - or decade!! I don’t know how to stop my eyes from being the blurred and so painful, but there’s no way I would let OE near my eyes again with a laser - which was suggested by their staff.

Left with so much pain, grief, frustration, and damaged vision, I totally regret having having this surgery.
Last Edit:24 Sep 2016 15:10 by year + on and still in pain
  • Gill

Replied by Gill on topic OE won't let me see surgeon who damaged my eyes!

Posted 19 Sep 2016 19:19 #55
I’m 36 and in November 2015 I had laser surgery at Optical Express in Glasgow performed by David Teenan.

Left with problems I’ve been back and forth seeing the optoms - along with my 2 yr old child. At an appointment 2 months ago I was told that the Clinical Director had decided I need to be examined by the consultant.

Two months went by and no-one contacted me. So this afternoon I called Optical Express to remind them but they told me David Teenan no longer does "review" appointments. That I will see Jonathan Carr who now does all the review appointments across the whole of the country.

I cannot believe that I am not allowed to have a meeting with the surgeon who operated on my eyes and left me with problems. I am complaining to the GMC as this cannot be right!

I really wish that I had gone with my first instincts which were to run a mile from Optical Express as I felt the sale was their first priority. Most of the OE staff I have encountered have proved that it is 100% their priority, and the whole foundation of OE's system. There is no standard of customer service and no continuity of care from any of their staff.
Last Edit:19 Sep 2016 21:59 by Gill
  • Jenny H

Replied by Jenny H on topic Surgery Regression

Posted 26 Aug 2016 14:00 #56
Having worn glasses since the age of 5 and contacts from 14 years I had laser eye surgery with optical express on 18th May 2011 on leaving university. The surgery was done at the Shaftesbury Avenue branch in London by surgeon Rodney Blumenfeld.
Everything was perfect for the first few years minus some dryness but then I noticed that I was unable to read road signs. I went for an eye check in March 2015 and they told me that I should wear glasses for driving but I was still under the legal limit so didn't have to. They put new lens in my old glasses for free.
Since then I found it necessary to wear glasses for driving and TV watching. I felt that I should also wear them for work but resent paying £150 for a nice new pair.
My vision is now bad enough that I need to wear glasses for everything. Optical express will not pay for me to have further laser surgery or to help me fund glasses and contact lens. They would also not offer a refund for the surgery.
I was hoping that you could give me some advice on how to proceed. At the age of 29 I do not think the surgery should have regressed so quickly. I was certainally not told prior to surgery that this would happen and it is not written in the documentation that I have.
The £3000 I spent on surgery has averaged out to a higher monthly cost than contact lens would have over the same 5 year period. Having been glasses and contact free for this short time I feel very upset and angry at the wasted money I have spent and ending up back in glasses and contact lens anyway with no compensation from optical express.
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  • Nik D'symonds

Replied by Nik D'symonds on topic Problems after surgery!

Posted 26 Aug 2016 13:36 #57

I'm just wondering if you can offer any advice with a problem following laser treatment on my wife's eyes.

After a consultation at the Trafford centre my wife was assured that laser surgery would give her better vision. She went to have surgery on 15th July 2015.

On arrival the surgeon, Antonio Uceda-Montanes, said she would have to have ‘iDesign' - at extra cost! Was not told about this in shop! Had it done and continued follow up appointments.

As time went on my wife suffered with constant dry eyes and her left eye wasn't correct. Kept going back and back, but they just gave her more drops and told her to keep going back.

Then eventually tried a contact lens to see what it would be like with an enhancement, but there was no difference.

She then was told by phone call that they had given the wrong lens for her astigmatism, she asked for them to order the correct one. She went back again, had to chase up again through head office and was then told that no such contact lens that exists!

After this error OE profusely apologised and after my wife chased this up for a whole year they eventually referred her to a surgeon for the enhancement consultation .

On 23rd August the surgeon Mr Mohammed Kazmi said he could do enhancement, but couldn't guarantee better vision, and that my wife was never going to get better vision with laser in the first place due to her age (45).

That was the first full information we were given of what would happen after laser eye surgery or during, otherwise she would never have had it done in first place! And it has failed!

What are our options and what advice can you give?

Nik D'Symonds
Last Edit:26 Aug 2016 18:00 by Nik D'symonds
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Posted 20 Aug 2016 22:04 #58
Max Cronin's tragic story is sadly not unique!

There have been a significant number of suicides in the US documented as being caused by the devastating results of laser eye surgery.

As a UK patient advocate since 2012, thousands of people suffering complications after refractive eye surgery have contacted me (incl lens exchange in recent years) searching for answers, wanting help, advice... and many of these people have expressed strong thoughts of suicide.

The fact that none have yet been documented in the UK doesn't mean that they haven't happened. And with our government desperate to avoid the scandal entirely, and the press and media repeatedly silenced by the industry, who’s to know?

One of my clients recently withdrew from legal action against OE due to crippling depression and PTSD (I prefer Roger Davis' term, 'Refractive Surgery Shock Syndrome’/RSSS).

A highly intelligent man who first contacted me in 2013, by 2016 he was no longer fit to work and unable to pay his mortgage.

About to have his house repossessed a few months ago, on the morning of the court hearing to this end he contacted me, and told me that he could see no future and intended to end his life. (Thankfully he did not.)

Depression is an illness (I have personal experience) and victims tend to isolate themselves and avoid social contact - often making unrelated excuses to family and friends to do so. Friends tend to either think they should leave the person alone, or find it easier to choose to believe the excuses, because they don’t understand depression and can’t deal with it.

Add to that the pain and desperate unhappiness suffered by the victim, also usually blaming themselves for allowing someone - even paying them! - to ruin their eyes, which was my first reaction post surgery, and it becomes a vicious circle as the person sinks deeper into the black hole of depression.

NB: I always advise people they MUST get help from their GP, preferably anti depressants, a valuable crutch until they’re able to cope without.

As regular OERML readers will know, I have fallen into the black hole a few times over the past five years, but am happy to say that (for now) I am coping without medication. That’s not to say I won’t succumb again - I probably will, but when I do I’ll reach for the anti-ds, because my experience shows that without medication there is no other ladder to aid escape… at least not for me!

If you haven’t yet done so, please watch US ophthalmologist Dr Paraj A. Majmudar’s sickening and tasteless performance as Dr I. M. Suicidal at the 2012 ASCRS convention!

Accompanied by his equally disgusting colleagues, Carlos Buznego, Jodi Luchs, Shachar Tauber and Bill Trattler, they make fun of the laser eye surgery patients who subsequently suffer with depression!

I intend to post contact details for all five surgeons on this Forum soon, for anyone who would like to voice their contempt to them directly.
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  • Nancy Burleson MD

Replied by Nancy Burleson MD on topic My son committed suicide

Posted 18 Aug 2016 22:23 #59
My son, Max Cronin, age 27 years old, committed suicide as a direct result of complications he suffered after PRK laser eye surgery.

He left suicide letters stating this and kept details of his complications.

He experienced vision loss, constant eye pain, dry eyes, haze, and loss of quality of life resulting in depression and his suicide. He was unable to work or continue his life goals due to problems with his vision after surgery.

This is an elective procedure and the risks and possible long term complications are understated by the surgeons/companies selling it. As a medical physician, I can definitely state that complications after these operations can - and do- lead to suicide.The resultant complications and negative quality of life increases the likelihood of depression, attempted suicide, and suicide.

Nancy L. Burleson MD FACOG
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Posted 15 Jul 2016 10:44 #60
Just looked at your notes, Maria.

Absolutely disgusting. To say that you're lucky that you don't drive shows nothing but contempt for you.
This makes me so angry.

I would suggest you contact them, ask to speak to Mehul Demani and ask them directly why they have treated you with contempt.

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